San Francisco Mayor London Breed on Kara Swisher podcast Recode Decode

In contrast to seemingly each different mayor within the nation, San Francisco’s London Breed was not enthusiastic about enjoying Amazon’s HQ2 game.

“I got enough to worry about,” she stated on the most recent episode of Recode Decode with Kara Swisher.

Breed’s shortlist of worries features a homelessness epidemic, psychological well being care reform, public drug use, streets so soiled she needed to convene a “poop patrol,” a scarcity of inexpensive housing for middle-class staff, and policymakers who can be blissful to see extra housing constructed so long as it doesn’t cast a shadow on a public park.

However as she approaches the tip of her first 12 months in her workplace, Breed additionally has a useful card to play: San Francisco is a metropolis with a low unemployment fee and lots of expert staff, so Breed can strain their potential Massive Tech employers to be a part of the answer.

“It wasn’t necessarily a tech company, but I had a company in my office who wanted to expand, and usually most mayors would be really excited about that,” she stated. “But I said, ‘So where’s your workforce? Where are your additional 400 employees going to come from? Where are they going to live?’”

“It’s not to say people aren’t invited, but it’s to say if you’re going to expand, there has to be some accountability,” Breed added. “How are you going to invest more in San Francisco?”

On the brand new podcast, she additionally talked a couple of new initiative known as Alternatives For All, which goals to position all San Francisco highschool college students in paid internships. She singled out Airbnb for its help of the initiative, indicating that regardless of some past “challenges,” the corporate is “rolling up their sleeves to be better community partners.”

“I want them to invite internships in their businesses and not where the kids are kind of pushed to the side, I want these to be meaningful internships so that they learn about this industry, about what’s possible in engineering, HR, or anything,” Breed stated. “I want them to be committed to really investing in our future in San Francisco.”

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Under, we’ve shared a calmly edited full transcript of Kara’s dialog with Mayor Breed.

Kara Swisher: You simply obtained again from one thing. The place have been you simply at?

London Breed: I used to be simply at Grace Cathedral, we have been having a solidarity live performance for Notre Dame, and simply what occurred there simply with the Paris individuals who dwell right here. Now we have over 60,000 individuals who dwell in San Francisco which are from Paris, and nice musicians, the opera, the symphony, actually heartfelt occasion with the Consulate of France and so many superb individuals. So, I needed to sneak out of church. I felt type of dangerous. You guys bear in mind the finger, proper? Once you stroll … Okay, perhaps that’s simply the black church buildings.

Yeah. Yeah, I run out of church buildings, earlier than they fall down. So, anyway … I’m so excited to have you ever right here. I’ve been eager to do a podcast with you and an interview with you, and dwell interviews are my favourite factor. Now we have lots to speak about, we’ve a lot to cowl, so let’s simply go proper in. Let’s begin speaking about … The place ought to we begin with San Francisco? So many matters. Let’s speak about how you’re feeling about being mayor. I’ll provide you with a simple one, how is it going thus far?

It’s difficult, however I gotta inform you, like sitting in Grace Cathedral as we speak, I used to be wanting up on the lovely ceilings and simply the home windows and simply pondering, “Wow, this is a beautiful facility, this is an amazing city.” And I can’t even consider that I’m mayor of the place that I used to be born and raised in, that’s actually how I’m feeling.

So, when you concentrate on getting that job, when you considered doing it, the circumstances to get right here not too long ago has been uncommon, what did you suppose your greatest job was? As a result of one of many … clearly there’s the problems round … we’ll get into homelessness, we’ll get into housing, we’ll get into all the large points, however what did you consider as your greatest job?

I believe my greatest job for me, as a result of that is why I obtained into politics within the first place, is actually to actually change the way forward for San Francisco to guarantee that individuals who, sadly, develop up in poverty don’t need to have the sorts of experiences that I needed to have rising up in San Francisco. You recognize, I simply consider prevention, prevention, prevention, how do I cease one thing dangerous from occurring so that folks can have a greater future, a greater alternative?

I felt like my greatest job was to actually deal with that with the selections that we make, whether or not it’s coverage choices, whether or not it’s how we make investments our sources on this metropolis, and likewise making good choices. And, in fact, not offering any false guarantees that one thing is definitely going to successfully work after we know that it isn’t. And so, being sensible about what we are able to do and ensuring we make the correct investments, and doing issues in another way in order that we are able to get higher outcomes. I imply, that’s actually how I felt about being an elected official, a public servant and all of the work that I proceed to do within the communities that I serve, in order that’s what I felt my job was.

How do you assess San Francisco, then, proper now? How would you actually assess town of San Francisco proper now?

I’ll say that it’s heartbreaking to see how a lot it’s modified. In order I stated, I grew up right here, and I truly grew up in public housing and poverty, in a uncared for group. And I additionally really feel like … I see simply, actually, the adjustments within the communities, like I stroll even within the Western Addition, and I really feel like I grew up right here, however I don’t actually acknowledge my very own group anymore. And I additionally see simply extra homelessness, I believe, than even once I was rising up right here, as a result of actually, there have been inexpensive locations for individuals to dwell. And again then, too, there have been extra households right here, and so, though plenty of us didn’t have some huge cash, we nonetheless had plenty of relations who lived with us, so there have been locations for individuals to dwell. And it’s simply modified lots.

I imply, sadly, there’s at all times been challenges with homelessness, however now, it’s troublesome for individuals to search out housing. I imply, I used to be simply speaking to certainly one of my mates concerning the public housing I grew up in, and a few of you may need grown up right here in San Francisco, throughout the road from the Pink Palace, and it was known as Plaza East, and it was nicknamed “OC: Out-of-Control Projects.” And for those who weren’t African American, you didn’t stroll by way of the place I lived. And I noticed somebody pushing a child stroller and driving a motorcycle and I simply was like, “Whoa.” It’s modified considerably.

And, I believe, a part of the problem is, because it modified, it type of pushed out lots of people and likewise left behind lots of people. And the sorts of insurance policies that, I believe, we put forth in San Francisco, some have been good insurance policies which have helped individuals, however in different circumstances there’s been unintended penalties which have created what, I believe, has an actual vital divide.

Folks have talked lots about earnings inequality, I imply, that’s not new, earnings inequality has existed, I do know positively, in San Francisco since so long as I can bear in mind. And a part of what we’ve to do in addressing the challenges that we face as a metropolis is to additionally bear in mind and begin fascinated by younger individuals now, and that’s why I’m pushing for offering, by way of Alternatives for All, paid internships for all highschool college students, as a result of we’ve to guarantee that that’s not the distinction between, sadly, what occurred in my group…

And I hold going again to this, however like, it wasn’t exhausting to go promote medication within the Tenderloin, and even in my neighborhood, it wasn’t exhausting to go downtown and steal issues after which promote these issues for cash. Folks in my group, sadly, did issues that landed them behind bars and in horrible conditions, as a result of they wanted cash. And so, I need to reduce on the boundaries to accessing cash in order that persons are in a position to generate sufficient cash to handle themselves.

So, let’s begin with homelessness. Clearly, it’s … do you take into account it your greatest downside? As a result of now it’s throughout your entire metropolis.

It’s positively … and throughout your entire state of California.

California, completely. It’s clearly elevated all over the place. I can inform you, in my neighborhood, it’s by no means been … I imply, there’s tents on each avenue. It’s dangerous for the residents, it’s dangerous for the homeless, it’s dangerous for the police. Do you take into account it your No. 1 downside? Or is it simply the seen downside of different issues occurring?

I might say it’s the No. 1 precedence. It’s vital in phrases … As a result of sure, it’s extra seen. But additionally, there are actual … if it have been simple, as simple as serving to to get individuals housed, that’s a simple factor to do compared to attempting to assist individuals who wrestle with psychological sickness and substance use dysfunction and plenty of challenges.

I imply, simply working with a few of these people, which I’ve, even earlier than I used to be mayor, to attempt to get individuals into supportive companies is an actual problem, it’s sophisticated. And the fact is, we don’t have the entire instruments that we’d like by way of our legal guidelines, particularly with our state regulation, that permits us to actually assist individuals the best way that I do know we are able to in San Francisco. So, to say we’re going to resolve this downside, it’s not sensible with out adjustments to our conservatorship legal guidelines for people who find themselves fighting psychological sickness.

Senator Scott Wiener is engaged on a invoice proper now in Sacramento, however that isn’t going far sufficient. Our jails and our hospitals are getting used to cycle individuals out and in. You see it, you see it throughout San Francisco, sadly, somebody who’s clearly struggling, and the police come, the police could take them to the hospital or take them to jail, relying on the state of affairs, 72 hours later, after a 5150 maintain, they’re proper again in the identical place, doing the identical factor.

And we’re questioning, what’s the metropolis doing? Why can’t town do one thing to cease that individual from taking off all their garments and working in the course of the road the place they virtually obtained hit by a automotive, or the entire issues that we’re seeing in our metropolis greater than we ever have earlier than? And so, a part of it’s we’d like some main adjustments, main cash for psychological well being reform.

What would you want? What would you need, as mayor?

So, to begin with, I employed a brand new psychological well being reform director to have a look at methods during which we are able to enhance the variety of psychological well being stabilization beds we’ve, wraparound supportive companies, and simply actually shining a lightweight on psychological well being reform in our healthcare system, interval. We’re beginning that on the native stage, however what I wish to see, on a statewide stage, is I need to see adjustments to state coverage, which give us the power to actually improve our conservatorship legal guidelines, in order that we are able to present a guardian who could make choices for somebody who clearly can’t make choices for themselves. That’s positively one thing that’s actually wanted.

That can entail them staying longer in these amenities? As a result of that was one of many … through the Reagan administration, all people was turned out.

Yeah, and it’s not about placing a time restrict on staying in a facility as a result of it’s not one type of psychological sickness, persons are fighting numerous layers of challenges, which in some cases could require that they go right into a facility, and so they could keep a brief time period after which transition into housing, just like the Richardson Residences the place we’ve wraparound supportive companies for people who find themselves mentally in poor health however nonetheless want somebody to assist them and help them, and so they, you understand, dwell their lives and so they exit and do what they do, however additionally they have help, like relations or mates or social staff.

However then there are other people who might have an extended time interval. Sadly, you understand, the psychosis trigger now from this, this craziness with the entire drug use, it’s generally not even reversible. So, how do you assist somebody like that? A part of it’s, you don’t lock them up and throw away the important thing, they want medical assist and help, the suitable prognosis, the suitable plan of motion. And once more, we don’t have the instruments to pressure anybody into that.

How do you concentrate on policing? I used to be simply pondering on my means dwelling as we speak, I noticed three individuals utilizing heroin, simply strolling. I used to be simply strolling in downtown San Francisco. And it was widespread, I’ve seen it again and again, I believe, most individuals have that have. Anyplace you might be within the metropolis now in any respect. How do you instruct the police to behave in these conditions?

So, I believe for essentially the most half, you understand, the police’s job is that if somebody, sadly, is committing against the law, their accountability is to deal with it, whether or not it’s a quotation, whether or not it’s an arrest or what have you ever. And that’s what their function is. And the problem is, for instance, yeah, all of us sadly see individuals out within the streets taking pictures up. However when you concentrate on it, arresting somebody who’s taking pictures up just isn’t going to assist them.

So, a part of one of many different issues that I believe is vital, sure, we have to crack down on drug dealing and deal with these points, however what number of years has it been and that continues to be an issue? So, the very fact is, sadly, individuals who wrestle with substance use dysfunction, they find yourself with medication, after which what occurs? You recognize, we don’t present, I believe, a superb plan round remedy. So a part of what we’re doing right here in San Francisco is our Division of Public Well being staff have methods to supply this new drug, and please don’t ask me to pronounce it, however they’re on the market, and so they can present remedy on demand.

And one of many the reason why I help secure injection websites and need to guarantee that we’ve secure injection websites right here in San Francisco is as a result of, sadly, as soon as somebody will get ahold of their medication, I need them to have a secure place to be, so that they’re, No. 1, not overdosing, No. 2, it’s not out within the streets, No. 3, the needles aren’t all over the place within the streets. However most vital, I need to have the ability to be the place that somebody who’s fighting habit can get assist. So, that’s the place that they’re going to go and so they’re going to say, “Well, you know, Derwin, he helped me last time, he welcomes me with a smile, that’s who I need to go to.” And we have to meet individuals the place they’re: As quickly as they inform us that they’re able to get assist, we’d like to have the ability to present that help.

What’s the response from residents to this, to the concept of serving to individuals? Has it gotten more durable? I imply, these are more durable instances, you understand, the entire nation has this kind of …

Serving to individuals in what capability?

Not assist, like shifting. Different municipalities have completed a lot more durable issues. This isn’t what San Francisco will ever do, presumably? And mustn’t?

Effectively, I believe there’s a steadiness. I imply, what has being robust on crime actually completed for us by way of simply locking individuals up and throwing away the important thing? I believe that we have to focus lots on rehabilitation, we have to concentrate on understanding that simply because we don’t like what somebody is doing that hastily they’re going to vanish, or what they’re doing goes to cease, and so, simply taking a look at other ways.

I’m not saying that individuals who commit actually horrible crimes, there shouldn’t be penalties for that type of factor, I’m simply saying that we have to take a look at issues in another way: How do we offer the type of help that’s going to hopefully assist this individual, and assist change this individual, or get them on the correct path in some capability, or to do one thing completely different? So, for instance, we’re actually cracking down on the drug dealing. However we take the medication, we take the cash, after which people, sadly, are proper again on the streets, doing the identical factor, nevertheless it doesn’t imply that we cease, proper? As a result of the opposite aspect of that’s attempting to supply individuals help, attempting to supply individuals employment alternatives.

So, speaking concerning the picture of San Francisco, as a result of, I believe, is there extra … Do you’re feeling extra strain from some residents to scrub it up? I imply, did you suppose that was your job? As a result of, I believe, if you look nationally, they’re at all times pointing at San Francisco as, kind of, an Armageddon like … I’ve watched completely different information issues appear to write down it like that, how do you take a look at that as mayor?

I take it private, as a result of, like I stated, I grew up right here. And my grandmother, she stated, “Just because we live in the projects doesn’t mean that we don’t take care of our community.” And I might go kicking and screaming, she would make us clear up the entrance, decide up trash, take the water and the cleaning soap and clear up the steps. And that type of caught with me. I at all times felt that sense of delight and taking good care of and cleansing up my group.

So, it’s not about, essentially, what different persons are saying, it’s about, what are we doing as a metropolis? It doesn’t matter what your circumstances are, we additionally need to take accountability. Sure, we are able to pour thousands and thousands of {dollars}, which we’re, into pit stops, the place individuals can use the restroom, and thousands and thousands of {dollars} into cleansing up the poop and choosing up the needles and cleansing up the trash. 311 has been an unimaginable instrument that folks can name to get issues cleaned up and picked up.

However in the end, we’ve to start out altering the conduct of all of our residents. It’s not simply homeless people who find themselves throwing crap on the bottom. I imply, I’ve confronted individuals out on the streets who simply stroll in and had a sandwich and simply end a few bites and threw it on … And I’m like, “What are you doing? What are you doing?” They’re like, “Oh, I’m sorry, Mayor.”

You, kind of, do that after it begins to get messy, have you learnt what I imply? It results in… It’s the damaged glass concept. The concept that if it’s messy, what the hell? It creates that.

I believe a part of it’s …

I get it, I chase individuals round my neighborhood on a regular basis.

Yeah, I believe these days persons are so caught up of their devices and all the pieces else that we don’t at all times speak to 1 one other …

We’ll get to the techies quickly.

… and generally persons are like, “Well, it’s not my problem.” Otherwise you by no means know the way someone goes to react since you simply by no means know. And for me, I simply … perhaps it’s my grandmother and perhaps as a result of even once I was working an arts group, the youngsters, they’re like, “Oh, you better pick that up, here comes London.” That kind of factor. After which these youngsters grew up on this setting the place they felt it was their accountability to scrub up their neighborhood.

And so, I believe, a part of it’s we’ve to work on — and that is one thing I’m speaking to our departments about, along with our clear groups and all of the issues we do, and the Repair-It Staff and issues, and going into communities — we’ve to have conversations with individuals, we’ve to work on altering conduct.

Oh yeah, yeah. I’ve this entire factor round a bag of urine in my neighborhood, this man at all times leaves it, I’m like, “You have that bag of urine, you throw it out if you’re going to do that.” And stuff like that. It’s a very attention-grabbing factor that it’s important to … It’s true. It’s the Castro, it’s each day.

Or there’s bushes, I imply, that’s like fertilizer.


Simply flip away from the streets.

You recognize what? I don’t suppose that poop map was good for San Francisco.

Effectively, the poop is a complete ‘nother ballgame.

All proper, okay. Clarify that ballgame then, please.

Sure. I imply, the poop is a complete different problem. And I’ve seen individuals the place there’s a pit cease a block away and it’s like, “Sir, there’s a pit stop, right there where you can use the bathroom, and it’s there all the time.” So, I’ve had these sorts of conversations. Once more, it goes again to conduct, as a result of, sadly, it’s human poop, it’s canine poop. I’ve seen individuals not decide up after their pets, which is a complete ‘nother issue. And it’s simply actually vital that … In fact, we’ve our poop patrol that’s on the market in our hotspots, and we’ve seen …

That’s some job, however go on.

And may I inform you? I met one of many guys and he whispered to me, he’s like, “Mayor, I’m your poop patrol.” And he stated to me, he stated, “I grew up in the city.” And I used to be like, “So, you know?” He was like, “Yeah, I’m out here, I’m talking to people. I’m out here cleaning up, but they got to take care of the city, too.” He was actually happy with what he was doing, to handle town.

So, let’s speak about paying for this inexpensive housing. Let’s begin with inexpensive housing. There’s been so many tales and controversies across the Embarcadero factor. You appeared at an occasion the opposite night time, it obtained testy, I believe, a bit bit. Speak about that. You had modified the concept of what number of beds … lots of people are in opposition to this concept of placing these amenities in these neighborhoods, particularly with out full cooperation of the neighborhood.

Yeah, and the factor is, I believe, all of us need to share in on what we all know we’d like are extra shelter beds and extra housing. And we are able to’t, once more, say we wish the issue to be addressed and never be open to options that we all know successfully work, no matter what neighborhood they’re in.

I believe that’s been an actual problem with San Francisco, it’s like quickly as you need to construct one thing throughout the road, it’s like, “Wait a minute, hold on, not by my place.” It’s gotten us nowhere, issues have gotten worse. And housing tasks have been stalled. I imply, we’ve targeted on jobs and constructing the economic system, however in terms of housing, everybody needs housing, however as quickly as a few items only one story too excessive will get positioned within the mistaken place and all craziness breaks free and …

That is the shadowing

I imply, it’s nonstop. And I simply suppose with this shelter, it’s going to actually assist and alter and save lives, like a few of the different shelters do as nicely. And it received’t be simple, however we’re dedicated to working with the neighborhood, beginning off at a smaller quantity with the power …

It was 25 beds to start out.

Yeah, we’ve the power to go as much as 200 beds. And hopefully, like what occurred in Dogpatch, they have been against the Navigation Heart that was constructed there, and we did it. And, in actual fact, earlier than the lease was up with the Port, they went to the Port and stated, “Look, we support extending the lease.” And so it’s nonetheless there. I believe that’s simply an instance; we’ve to show to them that this can work.

All the issues that we are saying that this stuff can do, these Navigation Facilities can do with the intention to assist transition individuals into everlasting housing, we’re proving that with every individual we assist, however we’ve to have locations for individuals to go and we’d like extra shelter beds. And it’s a very advanced, difficult downside. It’s not, once more, so simple as you’ve gotten a unit, which is troublesome to search out in San Francisco as it’s, nevertheless it’s actually difficult since you’ve obtained to fulfill individuals the place they’re, work out what the problem is, and supply them the wraparound help to assist them transition into what will probably be, hopefully, a everlasting housing state of affairs.

After which housing, not only for the homeless, however for lecturers and firefighters and police and issues like that. The factor across the shadowing, speak about that.

So, CEQA and the entire shadowing problem was simply used to cease this housing as a result of plenty of instances, sadly, you’ve gotten organizations who really feel like they need extra, and the problem is it’s a steadiness between giving extra and likewise dropping the housing, interval. Extra inexpensive housing, sure, all of us need extra inexpensive housing, extra group advantages, sure, all of us need group advantages, however when it’s all stated and completed, if it doesn’t occur, then which means these items don’t occur. And that continues to contribute to the excessive value of housing as a result of, once more, we’re not constructing sufficient housing quick — we’re not constructing it quick sufficient.

However what about SB 50?

So, I help SB 50. And I do know it’s very controversial.

That is close to transit.

That is about, actually, constructing extra density alongside transit corridors. And I truly, years in the past, launched laws to do that in my district once I was supervisor for District 5, it didn’t enhance top, it simply elevated density, so take away parking minimums and plenty of different issues that may …

For instance, there was one challenge with out even growing the peak, primarily based on the previous zoning of this explicit property, they have been going to construct 16 actually massive items and so they have been going to be leases, and primarily based on the adjustments that I made to transit corridors, NCT, Neighborhood industrial transit district laws, they mainly have been in a position to reformat the challenge and not using a top enhance and construct 66 items of 1, two, and studio items that are smaller items, however extra inexpensive, with out the parking minimums and plenty of different adjustments to this explicit housing. And so info was put on the market that I’m growing the peak and shadowing and all of this, and it wasn’t even true. And the challenge nonetheless hasn’t been constructed, it’s nonetheless delayed, and that is like 5 or 6 years later.

How do you take away delays? One of many issues is your proposal to place issues on public lands, this concept to construct inexpensive housing on public lands.

So San Francisco is such a fancy metropolis. I do know individuals marvel why there’s like all these tall buildings downtown after which hastily you’re like, “Wait a minute, everything is like on the floor over here” and …

There is no such thing as a metropolis prefer it, different cities are so dense, densely …

It has lots to do with our legal guidelines that have been created endlessly and a day in the past which are simply actually outdated. And what I inform individuals who dwell on the west aspect is, they speak about neighborhood character, we don’t need excessive rises on the west aspect of city, we need to defend neighborhood character. And I’m a local, I do know what they’re speaking about and I respect what they’re saying, and this isn’t about tearing down sound housing to mainly construct extra, that is about taking underutilized properties and creating a possibility for housing.

And I say, “Hey, did you raise kids in San Francisco?” “Yeah, I raised kids in San Francisco.” “Do your kids still live here?” “Well, no, my kids don’t still live here” and I take into consideration my mates and so lots of my relations who now not dwell in San Francisco as a result of we’ve not invested sufficient in constructing extra housing. And so getting artistic, I imply, individuals have been saying, “Well, there’s not enough land.” There’s alternatives throughout if we simply open our eyes to discover what is feasible.

So the Pink Palace, which I introduced up earlier than, grew to become Rosa Parks Senior Properties. So proper in entrance of Rosa Parks senior houses is this sort of underutilized property that was used for parking and another stuff. Effectively, we constructed 98 new senior housing items proper in entrance of Rosa Parks with that property proper there, that little sliver of property, very nice accessible items for seniors, and in order that’s a possibility.

We bought the McDonald’s web site on Haight and Stanyan by reaching out to the proprietor and asking them to think about it, we’re going to construct a 100 % inexpensive housing on that web site. There are such a lot of alternative websites in San Francisco, and what I need us to do just isn’t solely get artistic about these websites however fully rezone all public property, not together with parks, in order that it’s simpler to construct on public land.

Simpler which means it doesn’t take years and years?

It doesn’t take an extra two years to get housing constructed as soon as we are saying, look, we obtained this car parking zone, we are able to construct housing, it’s not zoned for housing.

How a lot acreage do it’s important to try this? Have you ever completed a examine of what you possibly can construct on?

Now we have some info however we don’t have the main points round, that is all of the property that we are able to construct on. We’re simply beginning down that street map.

So that may be on websites like that, the place town can’t …

Or the positioning … Like for instance, the college district has a web site that they’re constructing on the previous Francis Scott Key, it’s an old-fashioned that’s been shut down for a while. A few years in the past, town and faculty district agreed, we’re going to construct 100 % instructor housing and there’s an extra two years of course of as a result of it’s not zoned for housing. So it’s taking properties that we all know we might doubtlessly construct housing on, 100 % inexpensive housing, and ensuring that we reduce that years of course of in order that we are able to get that housing constructed sooner.

So how do you reduce on that years of course of?

Effectively, a part of it’s what I’m proposing to place an ordinance on the poll to fully rezone all public property in order that we lower that course of out of the equation fully. It doesn’t lower the housing course of interval by way of the permits and all of the issues it’s essential to do and approvals it’s essential to get it. Simply the rezoning of the property, which might be very prolonged.

And what about different issues to permit housing to be constructed faster? Clearly you need security in San Francisco, earthquakes and all the pieces else. What’s the factor that’s in the best way most out of your perspective?

The factor that I believe there must be some reforms to CEQA as a result of I believe there’s plenty of abuse with individuals who need to cease tasks as a result of they need to defend their views or they need to actually get extra money for themselves or their organizations. I’ve seen some actually horrible issues.

However then there are individuals who genuinely are involved about their communities too and so they need to guarantee that somebody is held accountable to take a position locally in the event that they’re going to construct locally. So there’s a variety of issues, however I found that paperwork might be the most important problem, getting by way of town’s course of.

I imply, for instance, accent dwelling items, in-law items, we handed laws again in 2012 or ’13 to make it authorized and simpler, and it was taking individuals nonetheless like virtually two years to get one little in-law and their unit constructed as much as code. And so once I first obtained in workplace, I put out a directive, I made all of the departments who work on this problem come collectively, they got the directive to clear the backlog inside a six-month time interval, and for any new permits they would wish to take care of these inside a four-month time interval.

They usually cleared the backlog, they’ve handled plenty of new items, permits, and we’ve been in a position to do extra in that quick time interval than we’ve over the entire three years of this system. And we’re even taking it a step additional to waive all of the division of constructing inspection charges for accent dwelling items to encourage extra individuals to make use of this as a instrument for housing. And we’re speaking about over 900 items that could possibly be within the pipeline, nevertheless it must be made simpler for these small property house owners to decide on to make use of this as a means so as to add extra housing to our housing inventory.

So let’s speak about tech then, as a result of that’s had an influence. How do you assess your relationship with tech? And we’ll speak concerning the IPOs which are coming and the rich individuals shifting round.

I believe it’s a problem.

These IPOs may not go that nicely, by the best way.

It’s difficult as a result of we have been at some extent in San Francisco the place it was all concerning the jobs, and so there have been plenty of choices made to actually enhance the economic system. We have been actually fortunate, we’ve like a 3.5 % unemployment fee, and on the flip aspect of that, as we created between 2010 and 2015 eight jobs, we solely created one new unit of housing. And there was this tremendous inflow of so many individuals who have been then descending upon San Francisco and our housing inventory was not ready to take care of that.

And I believe that that has been actually what the problem has been as a result of individuals have been pushed out, individuals have been displaced, the costs have skyrocketed, the communities have modified, and it’s actually … how issues occurred, they occurred so quick that we weren’t ready to only actually at the least attempt to defend individuals of their current housing and actually additionally present alternatives for San Franciscans to even be part of this new economic system.

You may say we weren’t ready or we have been, not you particularly, however the politicians, a few of them have been within the pockets of those tech individuals. That was leveled at Ed Lee, it was leveled that lots of people, the concept that these firms obtained to return and get every kind of gimmes and the individuals get to purchase the homes after which jack up costs.

How do you take a look at your relationship? How do you take a look at how about what occurred there? As a result of it didn’t simply occur, it was allowed to occur. Simply the same means what’s occurring with social media now, it didn’t simply occur, they have been allowed to behave that means and that’s why we’re the place we’re with social media as we speak. How do you take a look at your relationship with tech? How do you consider the tech group right here? As a result of it’s the most important trade, it’s one of many greatest employers, perhaps it’s the greatest employer.

I believe that there’s a disconnect between tech and San Franciscans. There’s not essentially a disconnect between individuals who come right here to work for within the tech world, however there’s a disconnect between plenty of San Franciscans and what truly occurs within the tech world and the way the tech world might truly be higher supporters of the group. And so I see my function …

Speak about that disconnect. What do you imply?

So for instance, the share of girls who work within the tech trade, the share of individuals of shade, particularly African Individuals, who work within the tech trade, there’s no direct outreach to those communities or no bridge to actually attempt to diversify the group.

Yeah, I’ve seen that.

Sure, and I’ve very critical issues about that. And a part of what I consider my function is to be a bridge builder and to additionally maintain them accountable and to work with them to open the doorways and supply these alternatives.

In order that’s within the jobs space?

Within the jobs space, sure.

What about them shifting, the individuals who work there shifting into town and altering the face of it, what do you suppose it’s completed? How do you take a look at it, moreover jacking up costs?

Yeah, so a part of it’s … and I’ll inform you, and it wasn’t essentially a tech firm, however I had an organization in my workplace who needed to develop, and often most mayors can be actually enthusiastic about that, however I stated, “So where’s your workforce? Where are your additional 400 employees going to come from? Where are they going to live?” I have to have a transparent understanding, and I believe that’s the brand new dialog, it’s not like we have to make a video to draw individuals.

So that you weren’t within the Amazon factor?

No, I obtained sufficient to fret about. So I believe it’s actually altering how we work with firms, it’s to not say individuals aren’t invited, nevertheless it’s to say for those who’re going to develop there must be some accountability. The place are your staff going to dwell? The place are they going to return from? How are you going to not change, proceed to alter the material of San Francisco? How are you going to take a position extra in San Francisco?

So there’s a distinct type of dialog we’ve to start out. Sure it’s about ensuring persons are paying their fair proportion, however we additionally need to guarantee that there’s a stage of accountability that ties no matter it’s that they’re doing by way of growing their capability to our transportation system, our housing, and the way they play a job in that as a result of …

How do you try this? Now, one of many methods was this current factor that Marc Benioff handed that a few of the tech firms, about taxing them and also you got here out … I’m considerably confused about the place you got here out, to be sincere with you. So what occurred?

I got here out in opposition to Prop C, and let me simply say this, once more, it’s not so simple as, okay, anybody who has gross receipts of over $50 million ought to pay this tax. As a result of it’s one factor to a Salesforce firm who mainly spends greater than that on workplace provides, however what occurs to …

No, that’s kombucha, however go forward.

However right here’s the factor: San Francisco is extra than simply tech firms, we’ve manufacturing, we’ve retail, and once I take into consideration one thing so simple as Macy’s, so lots of my mates grew up and nonetheless dwell in inexpensive housing and work for Macy’s. Macy’s is closing their shops, they match inside this class, however their bills, in comparison with the bills of a Salesforce, are two various things.

They usually’re this company that it’s like, okay, we’re not making any cash in San Francisco so we’re gonna simply begin closing these shops. And that’s what they began to do, closing their shops, lowering the variety of staff, shifting a few of them to dot-com, a few of these persons are older and never ready to work in these explicit industries, and so it’s not a one measurement matches all. You may’t simply take a look at $50 million-plus, there must be completely different classes of taxes for various industries primarily based on additionally what their bills are, primarily based on the workforce they’ve, and the way they contribute to the economic system.

So these are the sorts of issues that I used to be fascinated by. The favored factor, sure, would have been to leap on the bandwagon and say “Yeah, I want to take all your money,” however I even have seen San Francisco change and lose sure companies, lose sure varieties of individuals, job alternatives, and we’d like a various workforce, we’d like various job alternatives and this isn’t essentially a one measurement matches all, it wasn’t a one measurement matches all proposition.

In order that’s why I proposed laws that may enable firms — as a result of we’ve to gather the tax anyway. So we’re amassing the tax, we are able to’t spend it till the entire lawsuit is settled, but when an organization needs to choose in and permit us to make use of the cash now and with out anticipating to get it again, which there are some firms who can afford to do this and I will probably be reaching out to different firms to ask them to do this, particularly as a result of we all know most definitely there’s a major quantity that may most likely afford to permit that cash for use. However then there are different firms who could not be capable of and I believe that was extra of the difficulty for me is, once more, altering San Francisco in that means, assuming everybody in that class is tech firms and probably not wanting on the greater image of all the varied industries that exist in our cities.

It might be good to only take their cash, proper?

Mm-hmm, positive, if they need, sure, why not?

What’s your relationship with Marc Benioff like now?

Now we have a superb relationship. I imply, we struggle it out and we’ve the conversations, the factor about Marc is he loves and cares concerning the metropolis identical to I do and so we actually join on that stage, and we each have a ardour for wanting to deal with this problem, and we generally have variations of opinions about how we’d need to deal with these points, however I worth his work with Salesforce and what he’s completed in San Francisco, his contributions to only supporting so many superb initiatives in San Francisco, the hospital, UCSF, and plenty of different issues he continues to help, his love for the humanities and all the pieces. So he is a vital a part of San Francisco, vital a part of the material of San Francisco, identical to I’m, and our relationship will at all times be strong regardless of our disagreement on this one.

I’m going to complete with the tech firms, what would you want from them? What would you want them to present you? As a result of I do suppose …

Extra money!

Extra money, proper? They’ve much more cash. One of many issues that’s attention-grabbing, that I discover attention-grabbing is that when you concentrate on company citizenship and through the years, like Wells Fargo or whoever, the banks have been a part of the material of town, plenty of the tech firms don’t really feel that strategy to me or they don’t really feel like … So what are the exact stuff you’d need moreover the cash? As a result of I at all times use the expression, “they’re so poor, all they have is money.”

Effectively, I believe a part of it’s being part of the answer with serving to with the challenges of housing and never simply suppose that they might develop with out having an actual plan for his or her staff and the place these staff are going to return from. In order that’s one thing that even now we’re working to start conversations round these sorts of issues, I believe that’s vital. I additionally suppose that contributing to only actually the sorts of sources and packages and housing and the issues that we’re doing will make a giant distinction. As you understand, Marc Benioff, I requested him for a few million {dollars} for a constructing that I actually needed to get, it was in the marketplace, it was able to go, and he stated sure.

For what?

It’s move-on housing, it’s the place individuals have their very own restrooms and that kind of factor. As a result of plenty of the locations we sublease for previously homeless people, they’ve a shared lavatory, and so that is step-up housing by way of permitting individuals to have the dignity of getting their very own restroom. And so he instantly supported that challenge. So I’m on the lookout for extra help, I’m on the lookout for extra entry for individuals in San Francisco.

And a part of my Alternatives For All initiative the place we offer paid internships for all highschool college students, I not solely need them to contribute, which they’ve, however I need them to supply, I need them to ask internships of their companies and never the place the youngsters are type of pushed to the aspect, I need these to be significant internships in order that they find out about this trade, about what’s attainable in engineering, HR, or something. There’s so many layers, right here’s design and all these items, I’m not fully acquainted myself, however there’s all these various things that they will study on this trade or some other trade in San Francisco, so I need them to be dedicated to actually investing in our future in San Francisco. That’s an vital a part of it as nicely.

Do you’re feeling like they’re? Have you ever reached … Who do you’ve gotten relationships with? Marc, who else?

So there’s a bunch of … I don’t essentially have relationships with plenty of the perhaps individuals in cost, however plenty of their group.

Jack Dorsey?

I do know Jack, however we haven’t frolicked or something.

He’s been hanging out with President Trump not too long ago.

We haven’t had espresso but.

I will help you with that.

Sure, and a part of it’s …

Zuckerberg? He has a home, close to my home.

I met him too, I haven’t had espresso with him. I truly met together with his spouse Priscilla, which was actually cool as a result of we have been speaking about her initiative, which I believe is completely unimaginable. The place they’re elevating cash to supply help for housing, like hole funding.

There was a challenge the place we had 250 items and we simply wanted 10 million extra {dollars} to get it completed, and that is the type of initiative that they’re pushing the place these tasks which are prepared and simply want this hole funding that may assist previously homeless people and households and so forth and so forth, this might present a possibility for help. So we have been speaking about these initiatives, which she’s getting off the bottom, which I’m tremendous enthusiastic about, however for essentially the most half …

Brian Chesky?

I met him, plenty of the individuals … we speak on Twitter, we don’t essentially hang around or speak in individual.

They’re not that a lot enjoyable. So I’m pondering of Brian due to Airbnb and likewise the controversy round him. They’re gonna go public quickly.

I’ll say about Airbnb, I don’t essentially know Brian and we don’t interact in dialog, however the people who work for him have been unimaginable supporters of Alternatives For All. They not solely contributed to this system, however they’re going to present paid internships the place the youngsters make greater than minimal wage and so they’re actually studying about that trade and what’s occurring there. So that they’ve had some challenges in fact up to now and we’ve lastly obtained that trade underneath management, however they’re rolling up their sleeves to be higher group companions, which I positively admire.

And once more, when you concentrate on, say, the influence of Airbnb and the housing, they’ve wrangled, that firm which goes public in some unspecified time in the future, they’ve wrangled with cities throughout the nation, together with San Francisco, round guidelines.

Yeah. And I believe a part of it’s, once more is …

Similar factor with Uber, identical factor.

The problem of San Francisco as a type of bureaucratic metropolis, not essentially maintaining with the adjustments in expertise, in a means, hastily it’s like Uber and Lyft and Airbnb and scooters and all these applied sciences that simply descended on San Francisco, and we’ve not completed a superb job. We’re reacting to those industries fairly than being proactive and actually getting them to return to us from the onset, which is what I’m attempting to do by way of growing a greater relationship. It’s like, I would like you to return to us earlier than you do one thing that’s going to influence the general public.

Yeah, they don’t have a tendency to do this, that’s not their jam. I at all times … My huge joke is that San Francisco is assisted dwelling for millennials and all their companies that they carry them, however San Francisco is the experiment place for that every one of these things.

Effectively, it was for the scooters, however we scooped them up actual fast.

Yeah, I like scooters.

Yeah, I like them too as a result of you possibly can journey them in a gown.

Do you journey scooters in a gown?

I’ve. Once they first got here out, I’m going to confess that I used to be actually enthusiastic about them however I didn’t understand that they didn’t do what they have been speculated to do. They simply begin placing them on the streets and I used to be like, “Oh wow, it’s a scooter,” and one of many younger people that I do know was like, “Here, you want a ride?” And I used to be like, “Yeah, I’ll take a ride.” However I used to be like, “Wait a minute. How did this happen and what are they doing? Do they have a permit?! What’s going on?!”

“Wait a minute, I’m mayor, I can do something about that!” I’ve only a few extra questions, then we get questions from the viewers. Once you consider these issues, I at all times suppose that San Francisco ought to be town of the longer term the place all this stuff are literally being experimented on. I don’t know for those who consider it that means, do you think about all these sorts of issues ought to occur first in Francisco as a result of that is the place they’re born, do you take a look at it that means?

Effectively, I believe San Francisco has at all times been keen to strive new issues and be the place to experiment, however I additionally suppose there’s accountability that comes with that. So for instance, we’re enthusiastic about completely different modes of transportation and having scooters. And entry to scooters is nice, however what about security and what about allowing and what occurs if everybody who makes a scooter hastily places their scooters all over the place, everywhere in the sidewalk?

There must be some stage of accountability and a few kind of regulation and only a strategy to make it work. And from my perspective — and that is what I’m actually pushing firms to do — don’t make us come after you, come to us and speak to us about what you’re proposing in order that we are able to do it in a accountable means. In any other case, look what occurred.

Once more, I am going again to the scooters, everybody needed to compete. There’s all these firms, I believe there have been two firms chosen, we’re regularly rolling them out and letting them enhance the variety of scooters that they put on the market, nevertheless it took us a very long time to get to that time when if they’d come to us to start with …

However you possibly can take a look at Uber and so they did it, it labored for them, and so they’re about to go public at a $120 billion valuation.

Yeah, and that’s one other one which must be addressed. We obtained a tax that’s going to be on the poll, the TNC tax that’s developing in November, to get ride-share firms to pay their fair proportion. And a part of it’s, we have to guarantee that everyone seems to be paying by way of congestion and all the opposite issues that we’ve to take care of.

Folks need us to repair the potholes, they need us to verify the streets are secure. And I do know we love comfort, however comfort is kind of difficult and it’s taxing on our metropolis and I believe there’s a steadiness. I imply, there have been limits to the variety of taxis that could possibly be on the road in any given time, however the flip aspect of that’s the west aspect of our metropolis and much areas of our metropolis didn’t at all times have quick access to taxis.

So the place’s the steadiness? And with this explicit trade and the challenges with state regulation, it has made it actually troublesome for us to push for laws, however right here’s a possibility the place we might at the least generate cash that’s going to assist with MUNI, that’s going to assist with our infrastructure and that’s going to be vital.

Do you ever think about these companies as they develop — they’re going to do buses, Uber’s going to do buses, they’re simply engaged on sure issues — taking on public transportation? How would you take a look at that?

Effectively, let me simply say that from my perspective, and that is what I attempt to push for, I need us to be a metropolis the place we’re utilizing the least quantity of automotive as we presumably can, understanding that there are some individuals who positively want their autos, however having individuals on bikes and scooters and strolling and on public transportation means these individuals aren’t in autos, and that’s much less congestion.

And I believe it’s important to be open to the concept of offering alternatives that may transfer individuals round safely and extra effectively than what’s occurred up to now. I’m open to having the conversations, but when they simply present up with a bus attempting to drag within the bus cease from MUNI, there’s going to be issues.

Oh, we received’t even get to the buses. I believe it’s best to declare a car-less San Francisco. Simply determine it.

Effectively, maintain on now! Maintain on! My seniors within the Western Addition would lose their minds.

I get that, however I simply wrote a column in the New York Times, saying, “I’ll never own another car.” I’m going to eliminate my automotive.

So, let’s simply speak about that. Right here’s the factor. I’m okay with considerably lowering the variety of vehicles, however I don’t suppose it’s honest to say nobody ought to ever personal a automotive. I imply, there are individuals for numerous causes who want vehicles.

I get that.

And I simply suppose there’s a steadiness to strike.

Effectively, I didn’t suppose not marrying it with artistic options to maneuver individuals round, nevertheless it’s the concept of automotive possession is one which is rather like the best way we moved to cellphones, the best way we transfer to every kind of issues.

Yeah, however how do you get somebody that you simply’re taking good care of, that’s aged and might hardly stroll, how do you get them forwards and backwards, like I needed to with my grandmother, forwards and backwards to the hospital? How do you, in some circumstances, with plenty of youngsters, for those who’re taking plenty of youngsters locations and also you’re doing carpools. There’s completely different causes for various issues and everybody just isn’t a single millennial in San Francisco. Now we have all …

Wait, what? What did you say?

Effectively, I’m too previous to be a millennial. Effectively, perhaps I’m not. Now we have to consider, as we transition, how will we not depart individuals behind within the course of? It’s simple to say, let’s not do that or not do that however how will we be certain that these individuals …

Effectively, I used to be pondering self-driving vehicles can be on the forefront of all this.

I’ve been fascinated by my grandmother. My grandmother, Mrs. Brown, would by no means get in a self-driving automotive.

Sure. She is going to. She is going to sometime. She is going to. She’ll find it irresistible. So, vertical raise and take-off autos are out for her, too, proper?

We’ll see, we’ll see.

All proper. These are the issues they take off from the highest of a constructing and land somewhere else.

We’ll see. And we’re going to have to alter, however once more, I need to guarantee that within the course of we’re thoughtful about individuals who could depend on different issues or could also be cussed or produce other challenges.

So, questions from the viewers for the mayor?

Alejandro: Thanks. Hello, my identify is Alejandro. I personal a small nonprofit targeted on ending the cycle of poverty with highschool college students and I used to be curious, out of your perspective, if politics weren’t a difficulty, the place would you focus your nonprofit efforts?

London Breed: The place would I focus my nonprofit efforts? It’s what I’m doing now with Alternatives For All. I used to run a nonprofit and I mainly took plenty of our cash and I paid all of our youngsters as a result of, sadly, I didn’t need them on the market doing issues that may land them in Juvenile Corridor, and that was a strategy to get them extra actively engaged.

A part of what I’m doing with Alternatives For All is ensuring that even the youngsters you’re working with, we would offer a paid internship the place it wouldn’t come out of your proceeds. We pay them straight, we work with you straight, in order that means we hold them engaged, we hold them supported, and that’s only a step of what we’re proposing to do. That’s one thing I’m decided to make that positive we do and construct in San Francisco.

Alejandro: Thanks.

Again right here. Proper right here.

Emily: Hello. I’m Emily and my query is … I signify, I assume, tech millennials right here.

I’m bored with you! However go forward.

London Breed: She’s a lady! We’d like her!

Oh proper. Okay, no, we’re not. You, in entrance of her…

Emily: I take heed to your podcast each day! Anyway, my factor is, we’re not complacent is one factor that I believe positively we aren’t. You may ask our managers, we at all times need to do one thing subsequent. I assume my query is, all of us speak concerning the issues which are going mistaken within the metropolis in a social setting and plenty of us do need to do one thing to assist contribute. We don’t need to depart it to our CEOs to do one thing, so if I am going again to my social settings and relay a message from our mayor, what can be one thing you say that we are able to do on this stage of this inhabitants of tech millennials who do typically need to make it a greater place additionally?

London Breed: Effectively, I might say one of many issues to start out with is to be sure to register and also you vote and also you get extra actively engaged in San Francisco exterior of the businesses that you simply work for. There are plenty of nice nonprofits. Did you hear what he [Alejandro] simply stated he works with? He might use board members, he might use individuals to assist increase funds, he might use mentors for his younger individuals. See, I do know as a result of I needed to take care of this.

There are nice nonprofits which are working with individuals on these numerous ranges, so getting concerned in these boards, mentoring younger individuals, working with numerous community-based organizations, serving on commissions for town for issues that you simply may care about. There’s plenty of numerous issues.

I do know it’s type of extra broad, however relying on what your curiosity is — whether or not it’s homeless, whether or not it’s younger individuals which are homeless, whether or not it’s seniors or what have you ever — pointing you in the correct route means actively getting engaged with the organizations who’re on the bottom doing the work, who can at all times use assist and help. However it could actually’t simply be a volunteer day. It must be constant. For instance, even when it’s each Monday from eight til 3, I’m going to do XYZ at this group, and the oldsters that you simply serve oftentimes understand, they’re going to be on the lookout for you each single Monday at the moment.

And the distinction which you could make in somebody’s life, a part of it’s extra of us getting extra of us actively engaged within the issues that we see and the organizations and dealing with the individuals on the bottom as a result of sure, there’s cash, in fact, by way of serving to individuals, however how will we assist individuals’s spirits? How will we assist organizations that want extra help when they’re struggling to actually hold their organizations going to assist that inhabitants? These are the sorts of issues that I might say can be actually useful.

Proper right here.

Teri: Hello, I’m Teri. What are your ideas about having a navigation middle and/or shelter beds in each district within the metropolis?

London Breed: So, I believe that I’m high-quality with wherever we might discover a location that is sensible to have one, and what I’ve tried to do is determine locations the place we all know that there’s a big homeless inhabitants.

As a former supervisor of District 5, we had a constructing that we grasp leased within the Tenderloin as a result of that’s the place we have been capable of finding a spot, and sadly a few of the individuals from the Haight-Ashbury didn’t go. They nonetheless stayed within the Haight though they’d a spot. Not all of them, however a number of of them. It was very difficult.

What I’ve found generally is, even when we’ve a spot, like we’ve a navigation middle for mentally challenged people at Hummingbird in San Francisco Common and a few of these people need to return to the place they really feel comfy, so we run into challenges like that. I believe what’s most vital is figuring out a spot, interval, wherever we are able to discover one, but in addition simply understanding and understanding the panorama of that individual inhabitants goes to be simpler to assist individuals if …

The place they’re. Proper, proper.

London Breed: The place they’re, thanks. Sure.

And they’re all concentrated in sure areas. Proper right here. This younger man.

JJ: Hello, my identify is JJ and I believe that is type of a bizarre query for a child to ask.

Oh, no.

JJ: However what are you going to do about gun management in our metropolis and within the Bay Space? As a result of I see plenty of youngsters, they’ve weapons and it’s unsafe for them to have them and personally, I don’t need to get hooked on them.

Wait wait. Do you’ve gotten a gun?

JJ: No.

You shouldn’t. That’s good parenting proper there.

London Breed: Effectively, thanks a lot to your query.

That’s a terrific query. It’s not bizarre.

It’s a terrific query. I gotta inform you, sadly, I grew up in a group the place there was plenty of gun violence and I misplaced so many family and friends to gun violence on this metropolis and it’s heartbreaking. Sadly, it actually adjustments a group and it adjustments who you might be as an individual and no child ought to need to ever develop up being afraid that one thing may occur. Particularly once they’re in school — or anyplace else, for that matter.

A variety of the work that I’ve completed had been extra on the group stage by way of offering entry to alternatives. Right here in San Francisco, there was plenty of items of laws which were handed by way of banning the gun magazines, eliminating gun outlets in San Francisco, banning hollow-point bullets, and, most not too long ago, I’m so excited that the laws to mainly ban the gun present on the Cow Palace has lastly handed.

I believe that’s a part of it’s, sure, attempting to eliminate it and attempting to cease locations from promoting it and having it simply accessible, however there’s additionally one other factor. It’s actually conversations and schooling with younger individuals and having psychological well being help for younger individuals in our faculty programs, as nicely, to determine challenges which may exist, which may result in that stage of exercise within the first place. Thanks a lot to your query.

It’s a terrific query.

I believe on the native stage, we are going to proceed to push for adjustments, and actually, I might like to see us on a nationwide stage lastly actually eliminate weapons and simply cross the type of coverage that may make it troublesome for anybody to have entry to a weapon of any sort.

Which is rising. Which is rising, 100 %. All proper, yet another query proper right here for the mayor. Oh. Would you thoughts doing two?

That’s okay.

Oh okay. Good.

Brian: Thanks guys. Hello Mayor, my identify’s Brian. I’m an area enterprise proprietor, small enterprise proprietor truly, a block away from right here at 16th and Mission. We talked lots tonight about making it simpler for individuals to entry inexpensive housing. I’m curious how you concentrate on making it a bit bit simpler to function a enterprise, particularly a small enterprise on this metropolis.

You’re most likely conscious that there’s plenty of empty storefronts all through numerous neighborhoods on this metropolis. Similar to on the housing aspect and the job creation aspect, there’s been plenty of laws that’s actually well-meaning however has had unintended penalties and made it actually troublesome to rent and help the varieties of communities that we’re usually speaking about needing housing, however additionally they want jobs and small companies usually present these jobs. So, I’d love so that you can speak a bit bit about that.

What’s your small business?

Brian: It’s a restaurant known as Kitava Kitchen.

I’ve had plenty of restaurant individuals speak to me about this, about this problem. A number of completely different restaurant individuals and I’ve seen within the Castro, three eating places have closed that have been there.

Brian: It’s a giant problem.

Yeah, they have been all discussing the difficulties of working a restaurant.

Brian: I consider that restaurant and hospitality accounts for over 50 % of the income that goes to town, truly. Whereas tech is big, we truly present plenty of income for town. So once more, London, simply actually curious to listen to how you concentrate on this.

London Breed: Thanks. So, I believe a part of what we’re proposing is to chop again on charges, as a result of a part of what we do greatest, sadly, on this metropolis, is we’ll cost you a price to your money register, we’ll cost you a price. Each little factor. I imply, you need to paint a wall? We’ll cost you $20. It’s actually loopy.

And one of many issues we’re engaged on now, and I’m not ready to supply the main points on it as a result of I need to guarantee that we are able to do as a lot as attainable for small companies which have companies the place you’re the one enterprise, the one proprietor and people sorts of issues, proposing discount or elimination of sure charges, which might assist. I’m hoping to get to some thousand {dollars} of, actually, discount in charges. So the workplace of financial and workforce improvement, they’re engaged on a plan for issues that we are able to positively lower out, which are redundant and are simply making it troublesome for small companies.

Or make the method faster.

Ah yeah, that may be a entire different ballgame, however sure. Positively on that. The opposite factor that we’re investing in is our SF Shines program, in order that we are able to present — often they are saying “loans,” however I need to flip them into grants, in order that we’re in a position to give them to small companies that meet a sure standards. Legacy enterprise and different companies in order that they might keep away from closing, however simply methods to enhance their facades, present extra cleansing of their space, enhancements on the inside and people sorts of issues.

We’re working to place collectively, particularly as we strategy Small Enterprise Week in San Francisco, a strategy to actually reduce the bills of doing enterprise in San Francisco. I do know that the opposite problem is, there’s a bit tax that you simply’ll get charged, the wholesome … What’s it?

Brian: Wholesome surcharge.

London Breed: Yeah, and that’s positively … I’m simply going to be sincere, there’s no help actually on the Board of Supervisors to make, sadly, any reforms or adjustments to that individual tax, which I do know has been actually difficult. Particularly for those who present well being care and all of these issues to your staff. I do know that that’s a fancy problem, however I do suppose that we’re hoping to, inside the subsequent couple of months, primarily based on a few of our analysis and overview of a few of the impacts, we need to roll out plenty of adjustments to help our small companies.

They are going to be mirrored in my upcoming funds, as a result of as we lower these charges, which means a discount within the sum of money that we soak up as a metropolis. My plan is to guarantee that it’s going to truly successfully ship help for small companies as a result of there are empty storefronts everywhere in the metropolis. Downtown, as you possibly can see, retail has modified and that’s …

It’s everywhere in the nation. That’s a secular development.

It’s positively everywhere in the nation, nevertheless it’s modified however the hire hasn’t gone down.


And so we even have to carry property house owners accountable, which not too long ago I do know the board handed laws to assist deal with the challenges with individuals reporting their empty storefronts, which they’re speculated to do by regulation. I believe that there are a few initiatives that we’re going to be popping out with that hopefully will probably be useful to our small enterprise group in San Francisco.

Okay. Another query. Proper there. Oh, which one? I don’t know. You decide.

I’m in right here burning up. Are you guys scorching?

Yeah, it’s scorching.

It’s like having scorching flashes!

Talia: Hello. My identify’s Talia. Due to each of you for being right here and fascinating on this dialog. My query for you, Mayor Breed, is about native politics and the millennial technology who, I believe the tech individuals particularly, who come right here and largely are usually not right here for longer than 5 to 10 years. Participating them in native politics, how do you concentrate on doing that?

London Breed: It’s actually robust since you’re proper, a lot of the knowledge reveals that people who come right here to work in San Francisco within the tech trade, they often received’t register to vote as a result of they’re registered at dwelling and so they don’t essentially get entangled in politics as a result of they’re right here to do a job and also you don’t know for those who’re going to remain or not and put down roots in San Francisco or what have you ever. I do suppose it’s vital that you simply do get entangled in some capability.

Politics is vital as a result of elections have penalties and insurance policies have penalties and dangerous insurance policies might be devastating. I’ve at all times felt like one of many issues that I needed to do it doesn’t matter what is vote, it doesn’t matter what. That was vital to me and I believe that a part of what, and I’m a Democrat and I’m a proud Democrat, however I additionally suppose that the Democratic Social gathering and different events normally have to do a greater job with getting individuals enthusiastic about voting once more and getting actively engaged in that.

I used to be very daring. I might exit with my little ironing board with NAACP and register individuals to vote and that was my first type of interplay with the entire politics and elections. I used to be in faculty and I beloved doing that work and that was actually enjoyable for me. Additionally, as a result of I believed it was enjoyable, it was simple to get individuals to register and get them engaged.

I believe expertise, to not say that it’s … however individuals don’t actually speak to one another in the identical methods. They’re on their telephones, on their devices. You don’t see that very same, all these individuals on the market with ironing boards registering individuals to vote and the sorts of issues that used to happen. I might simply say, get to know the panorama. Get to know your elected officers. Get to know your group and the individuals in your group and your neighborhood organizations.

I believe that could possibly be a primary step to not solely getting extra actively engaged, however growing nice relationships with individuals who you meet within the course of and that’s actually what it’s about. It’s about nice relationships, coming collectively, and actually, you can also make magic occur. You may’t at all times do it by your self, it’s important to work with different individuals with the intention to actually get nice issues to occur, and I believe that’s one thing which you could take again, is simply actually getting concerned and dealing collectively might be actually highly effective.

Yeah, I believe you’re saying analog. Okay, I’ve two very fast questions to complete up. One is, you’ve stated that twice, individuals taking a look at their gadgets. Folks observing them. How do you’re feeling about tech? As a client factor, when you concentrate on that? Particularly, that is town, or this was the realm, the place it was all invented.

Effectively, you understand, I find it irresistible. I imply, I do. I like the truth that earlier than I used to be mayor, to get a journey once I needed one if I used to be working late, to know when the bus is coming from my little app, all these little issues. So I like that. However I additionally discover that it additionally actually disconnects individuals from individuals. A part of my concern about expertise is the truth that we don’t simply have a dialog anymore and we’re extra type of targeted on our gadgets and speaking by way of our gadgets.

It’s completely different when … you possibly can curse individuals out in your system and it’s not a giant deal, but when we’re sitting right here having a dialog, the chance that you simply’re going to curse me out is much less seemingly, so I believe issues have modified lots and expertise has modified issues. A few of the issues are nice and I like the issues, however on the identical time I’m fighting simply what’s occurring to the subsequent technology and the way are they speaking with one another? How are we ever to determine when somebody is struggling or in want, a pal. Simply these sorts of issues are actually what I’m fascinated by.

Are you aware what you are able to do, because you wish to yell at litterbugs, is what I do is I am going, as persons are strolling within the streets of San Francisco and so they’re on the telephones like that, I get proper behind them and I am going, “Look up!”

You try this?

Yeah, I do. On a regular basis. It’s actually good.

No. You don’t!

“Put it down! Put it down!”

No means!

And the factor is, persons are tremendous well mannered and so they’re like “Oh. You’re right.” They don’t ever hit me with them, however because you’re mayor, it could work higher.

Oh my God. It would, however I don’t suppose I’m gonna yell at anybody.

Why don’t you journey by on a scooter doing it?

That may be hilarious!

I provide you with an ideal means to do that, I provide you with all these alternatives. Talking of which, do you’ve gotten greater hopes for greater workplace? We simply obtained Gavin within the governorship, however …

Yeah. I imply, I’m a metropolis lady. I like being in San Francisco. I like being native as a result of though it could appear difficult, going to a gathering and getting yelled at, I nonetheless just like the human interplay. I like partaking in conversations with individuals. I like being out locally. I like strolling to the grocery retailer. Getting my nails completed. I like being within the metropolis.

Locations like Sacramento and DC are very institutional and that’s not my model. I imply, I’m a San Franciscan and I’m not pondering like, “Oh, this is a stepping stone.” I by no means thought I’d be right here within the first place, and so I need to benefit from each alternative to take a position as a lot time as I can in bettering our metropolis as a result of I need to look again on my time as mayor and suppose, “Wow! San Francisco had definitely gotten better.” That’s what I need to do.

So that you’re not going to be a kind of 53 individuals working for president?

No, I’ve already gotten plenty of grey hairs since I’ve turn into mayor. To attenuate the variety of grey hairs I believe I’m most likely going to get, I believe I’ll persist with this.

All proper. Mayor London Breed, thanks.

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